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〜ないまでも

N1

even if not (to that extent), at least

Formation: V-ない + までも; N + とは言わないまでも

〜ないまでも sets a higher level aside ('maybe not X') and then states a lower level that is still expected or hoped for ('but at least Y'). The main clause often contains せめて, 少なくとも or 〜くらいは, and it often expresses a wish, an obligation, advice or a judgment (〜たい, 〜てほしい, 〜べきだ, 〜ほうがいい). It is somewhat formal but common in both writing and speech, especially in the set phrase 〜とは言わないまでも. Do not confuse it with 〜までもない ('there is no need to'), which looks similar but means something unrelated. Compare also 〜ないことはない, which means 'it is not that one can't' rather than comparing two levels.

Variants: 〜とは言わないまでも

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